more Ainscough oldies

Thanks to my 2nd cousin Jonathon Hopper, (son of Josie Ainscough and grandson of Maurice Ainscough) for this fantastic collection of old photos. They can be viewed online at the following Picasa photo sharing address:

Oldies- Ainscough photo collection/

If anybody recognises any of the buildings or people please do add a comment.
When I get chance I may download some and add to the Flickr Mawdesley - Ainscough photo pool.
Thanks Jonathon!

Wigan Cricketers - Info on Thomas Ainscough & Capt. Ainscough (5th Manchester Regiment)

On 24 Nov 2008, at 23:02, peter lomax (peter_lomax@hotmail.co.uk) wrote:

Hi Barbara
I am researching the complete history of the Wigan Cricket Club for a dvd film and have found many links with the Ainscough family of (or nearby) Wigan. As many of the family have played for the Club over the 160 years I was hoping you could shed more light upon two people in particular. Thomas Ainscough, who played for Wigan and Lancashire in 1891-1906 (http://content-www.cricinfo.com/engvpak/content/player/8688.html) and a Capt. Ainscough who served in the 1/5th Manchester Regiment, 42nd East Lancashire Division in Egypt and France in 1914-15.
I have also spoken to a cricket historian, Don Ambrose, who has previously helped a Doreen Ainscough in finding information about Thomas and his times playing for Lancashire. Also, I am currently in pocession of newspaper reports of Thomas Ainscough's performances in certain games from 1909 and obituaries from the Wigan Observer and The Cricketer. This gives a detailed account of his life, however anything more personal to the man that you may offer would be of great help.
If you are unable to help in this matter, please feel free to hand my email to anyone you feel can, as every bit of information always helps. Thank you for your time.
Peter Lomax

On 25 Nov 2008, at 10:16, barbara ainscough wrote:
Hi Peter
Good to hear from you. Your work sounds very interesting and I would love to see what you find out and would welcome any further information, images and records to add to the blog.
The information I have about these 2 cricketers is all on my blog. This has been given to me from various sources including ancestors of the 2 gentlemen, namely Mary Ainscough and Anthony Ainscough of the Parbold Ainscough branch(brother and sister). They have also passed on a few old family photographs and I guess they would be the people to contact regarding additional information and permission to use photographs.
Cricketer John Ainscough (1863-1937) - Liverpool and District was the Grandfather of Mary & Anthony Ainscough, Parbold, (John was brother to Hugh & Thomas). It is this Thomas Ainscough (1865-1927)- Lancashire (Main FC: 1894-1906)(brother of John & Hugh) you seek further information about. Captain Cyril Ainscough is the other cricketer you are interested in. Both Thomas and Cyril are from this line of Ainscoughs.

GGG GrandfatherThomas AISCOUGH(1715-?)
G G Grandfather Hugh AISCOUGH (1745-?)
G Grandfather Richard AINSCOUGH (1770-1849)
grandfather Hugh AINSCOUGH (1816-1894) - Thomas is one of 13 children
father James AINSCOUGH (1858-1933)
Cyril AINSCOUGH (1893-1915) - is also nephew to Thomas - cricketer above

I have cc'd this email to them so you should be able to contact them by email. Should you have any difficulties please let me know and I will see if I can contact them.
The following blog entries might be of interest to you:

Hugh and Susan (Fairclough) Ainscough (parents of Cricketer Thomas)
Cricketers - Ainscough photos

(more family information)
Lancaster House

H&R Ainscough

Captain Cyril Ainscough
Captain Cyril Ainscough

Lancaster House today and contacts
Lancaster House

I hope this helps.
regards
B

On 1 Dec 2008, at 15:47, peter lomax wrote:
Hi Barbara
Thank you ever so much for helping me with the information. I have emailed Tony and Mary for any further help they may be able to offer. Obliviously, covering 160 years of the Club, I have found many wonderful characters and important persons who have aided the club in so many ways. That is why writing a feature on the Ainscough family of Parbold who have for many years been involved with the Club would be best for the dvd project.
I will be writing up all the information on Thomas Ainscough and Capt. Cyril Ainscough that I have, and as soon as that is done I will email you a copy for your blog.
Thank you again, Peter.

Stopforth - Speakman - Fairclough - Ainscough links 1700s

Thanks to Andy Scarisbrick the following (see snapshots above) trees are available for download (pdf) from the black box on the right:
Fairclough (Wrightington) Tree
Speakman James 1755 Tree
Speakman Joseph 1765 Tree
Speakman Tree
Stopforth William 1742 Tree

On 16 Nov 2008, at 15:21, Andrew Scarisbrick (andy_scarisbrick@hotmail.com) wrote:
Hi Barbara.
Do you ever get the feeling, when doing family research, that you end up going round in circles? I seem to be finding that at the moment.

First: I have been doing some work for someone on the Speakman family, and have found a Joseph Speakman, b. c.1765, who married a Susannah Ainscough b. c.1770, at Ormskirk, in 1795. The second son of this family was a Hugh Speakman, which is definitely an Ainscough name, who married a Mary Ditchfield.
I was wondering if you had ever come across a Susannah Ainscough born around 1770?

Second: I have also been doing some work on my mother's ancestry, and have traced back to a Margaret Ditchfield, nee Stopforth, daughter of James Stopforth, b. 1779, Lathom. I have found James' baptism at the Douglas chapel, Lancashire, and he was the son of William and Ann Stopforth. I have also found the marriage of a William Stopforth to an Ann Ainscough at Ormskirk in 1775.

Do you remember the wills of Hugh Ainscough of Ormskirk, liquor merchant, and Margaret Ainscough of Ormskirk, spinster, both died around 1812/3? They were brother and sister of your ancestor John, who married Margaret Worthington; so children of James Ainscough b. c. 1711. They both mentioned their sister Ann Stopforth (Stopford), wife of William. Hugh names two of her sons as John and Henry; Margaret says she has five sons.

Well, I can find the baptism of sons Edward, 1776; James, 1779 (see above); and John, 1781; with links to a possible William. Not sure about Henry yet.
Does this make sense to you? If so, it would definitely appear that I am descended from this Ann Stopforth nee Ainscough, b. ~1842. So I have another line of Ainscough ancestry.
All my research comes round again.
Please tell me what you think.
Andy

On 17 Nov 2008, at 20:43, barbara ainscough wrote:
Hi Andy - well done for the detective work and joining up of families!
thanks for this information...yes the names are very familiar and Im sure I have links to the Stopforth and Speakman families in the blog. I definitely recall the Wills of Hugh Ainscough liqour mercahnt and spinster sister Margaret Ainscough and the mention of their sister Ann Stopforth. Fascinating that you are linked to more than 1 line of Ainscoughs....have you access to any new Will information?? The Hugh and Margaret Wills are available on the blog and also in my Flickr area, infact im sure it was you who sent them to me previously. I shall look into Susannah Ainscough born around 1770 - the Parbold Ainscough branch spring to mind here.....sure Ive seen the Speakman/ Ainscough link here....leave it with me, perhaps Mary and Anthony Ainscough (Parbold) can help out.

Useful links are:
http://ainscough-familyhistory.blogspot.com/2007/01/will-margaret-ainscough-8th-march.html

http://ainscough-familyhistory.blogspot.com/2007/05/margaret-ainscough-d1812-dau-of-james.html

http://ainscough-familyhistory.blogspot.com/2007/01/1813-hugh-ainscough-of-ormskirk-liquor.html

Also John Stopforth, Canada, (stopforj@shaw.ca) has provided information in the past about the Stopforth links....maybe try him??
B

On 19 Nov 2008, at 08:38, Paul Cobham (paul.cobham@hotmail.co.uk) wrote:
Jenny Trafford from Parbold ring any bells?
Paul Cobham

On 20 Nov 2008, at 12:56, Andrew Scarisbrick wrote:
Hi Barbara.
Thanks for your help. I am sure someone will know this mystery Susannah.
I was rather surprised (and worried) when I turned up the Stopforth/Ainscough marriage, and realised I had another Ainscough link in my family. I have no further wills at present, but intend to look for some Stopforth wills as soon as I get the chance.
It is also rather amazing how all these families interlink with one another. I have a younger son of Joseph Speakman and Susannah Ainscough, Richard, b. ~1814, Dalton, as marrying Mary Ainscough, youngest sister of Hugh (1816) of the Parbold branch.
I also have the Speakmans as connected to Faircloughs - I am not sure if there is a connection to the Susan/Susannah Fairclough who married Hugh Ainscough (1816) - I am looking at it.
But you can definitely see a complicated 'web' emerging amongst these families. If you are interested, I can pass on what I have on the Speakmans - although it is not yet complete.
Regards
Andy

p.s. I have connected that John Stopforth, and we are exchanging Stopforth info.

On 20 Nov 2008, at 13:31, barbara ainscough wrote:
Hi
anything and everything please ...especially those fab. family trees you draw - even if they are small. As long as there is some ref. to an Ainscough in there I can find an excuse to blog it...it definitely rings bells in the Parbold line to me too. I bet there is a link to Susannah Fairclough who was Mary Ainscoughs (parbold) GG grandad.
Glad you have mailed John Stopforth in Canada, I hope this turns something new up, he will be a good contact and from what I recall he has done quite a bit of work on the family. I really wouldnt worry about 2 Ainscough families turning up in your family. It semed to be qite a common thing, you will probably find they are very distantly related. Our tree also shows Ainscoughs marrying Ainscoughs. I must find out where and when, thinking about it, this could also be the same instance you mention.
B

On 22 Nov 2008, at 14:21, Andrew Scarisbrick wrote:
Hi Barbara.
Here are a few trees for you, showing some Speakmans, Stopforths and Faircloughs - with their Ainscough connections. They are still works in progress, so are not fully finished, and they may yet grow.
Also be aware that there are brackets around the 'descendant' lines for some children. These means that I have not found 100% proof that they are with the correct parents, but there is usually some logical deduction for them being there, so it would seem highly probable. Last time I spoke to you, there were about three times as many brackets - which I have since proven (my theories were correct) using the registers of Burscough RC chapel, now St. John the Evangelist.

First is the Joseph Speakman tree, who married the Susannah Ainscough xxx/1793. Note that two of their children married Faircloughs, and (I think) one son married an Ainscough.
Second is a James Speakman tree, who I believe could be a brother of the Joseph above. It was this branch I started researching for someone else (descendant through the Atherton Halsall line). This branch has no connection with Ainscoughs, but I have included it because there is a Speakman/Speakman marriage between the two branches(just to make it more confusing!).
Third is a large Speakman tree connecting what I think are the two brothers, above.
Fourth is the Fairclough (Of Wrightington) tree. I have now proven that the Susannah Fairclough who married Hugh Ainscough (1816) was the daughter of Hugh Fairclough and Catherine Speakman (Catherine daughter of Joseph Speakman and Susannah Ainscough). I hope you can understand these trees because there is a lot of intermarrying going on between these families. The only 'missing link' is where the Susannah Ainscough, b. c.1770 fits in.
Lastly is the Stopforth tree, showing the descendants of William Stopforth and Ann Ainscough.
Records:
marriage date of Joseph Speakman to Susannah Ainscough - 11th April 1793, at Ormskirk
When looking at the records of Burscough RC Chapel, as above, I found the following Ainscough related baptisms;
b. 13/8/1794 - chr. 15/8/1794 - Matthias s. Joseph & Susannah Speakman (nee Ainscough)
b. 6/1/1796 - chr. 7/1/1796 - Hugh s. Joseph & Susannah Speakman (nee Ainscough)
chr. 23/7/1809 - Edward s. Henry & Margaret Ainscough
b. 15/3/1834 - chr. 16/3/1834 - Margaret d. James & Elizabeth Cave (nee Ainscough)

The Speakmans are obvious, but I thought you may be interested in the others. I will try to see where they fit in.
Best Regards,
Andy.

On 18 Dec 2008, at 12:53, Andrew Scarisbrick wrote:
Hi Barbara.
Thank you, that is really interesting. The Anne Ainscough b. 1783, when you say she is the sister of Richard A the elder, I am presuming you mean Richard Ainscough b. 1770 who married Elizabeth Livesey, father of H&R.

If so, I am sadly lacking in details of this family (i.e. Richard's brothers and sisters - I only know of one, James, who died 1818 Ulnes Walton) so that is useful info; and she will be distantly related to me through the Ainscoughs. I will see if I can find who she married, and if it is one of my Stopforths.

I have found the following burials at Croston church, from the online parish clerk, and I wondered if you had seen them? Do you think (as I do) that they belong to Thomas (b. 1715) and Richard (b. 1719), sons of Hugh Ainscough (very senior, b. ~1685)? If so, they could help to build up knowledge of this generation of the family.

Burial: 5 Jun 1746 St Michael and All Angels, Croston, Lancashire, England
Richard Ascough - Son of Thomas Ascough & Mary
Abode: Mawdesley
Occupation: Yeoman
Register: Burials 1728 - 1782, Page 36, Entry 23
Source: LDS Film 93712

Burial: 4 Jun 1745 St Michael and All Angels, Croston, Lancashire, England
Hugh Ascough - Son of Richard Ascough & Margaret
Abode: Mawdesley
Occupation: Husbandman
Register: Burials 1728 - 1782, Page 35, Entry 1
Source: LDS Film 93712

On 27 Nov 2010, at 00:58, Murray Leonard wrote:
Murray Leonard

Hi Barbara,
I've been looking at your site these last few days.
Thomas Holding married Jennet Stopforth 1766 in Wigan. Trying to find Jennet's baptism/family etc. IGI has a Jennet Stopforth baptised 1723 in Denton, Lancs, father William.
Maybe you know someone who may know something on this branch of Stopforths.
Also 1824 Wigan marriage between John Howard and Jane Holding witness John Speakman. John Speakman marries Martha Ward 1825 in Wigan. I wonder if John Speakman was related
to John Howard or Jane Holding.
Thanks Murray Leonard

‘LOCK UP YOUR BOSS’- Ainscough in jail!!

Dad has been in touch again with the following link - seems James Ainscough of Ainscough Crane Hire and a colleague have recently found themselves in trouble with the Law - not really!- it looks to have been both a fun and extremely successful charity raising event.....well done to all involved!
I just find it uncanny how alike Elvis James A looks......Im sure his ancestors would be proud of him.
Click the link to find out more.

On 4 Sep 2008, at 19:43, Peter Ainscough wrote:
Thought you'd like this:
Lock up your boss- Ainscough's in jail!/
Love,

Dad

Peter Ainscough 1856 & Hannah Partington 1856

Just received this email from Ray Beeker in Tennessee. The names do ring a bell but I can't remember who has contacted me in the past about this family.....if its you can you please get in touch with any information you might have.
thanks
B

On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:56, Catherine Beeker (rcridge@egix.net)wrote:

Barbara:
Found your wonderful site some time back. My greatfather, Peter Ainscough was from Bolton, Lancashire. Born 21May1856? Married Hannah Partington(16 Nov 1856-April 1926) They came to states in 1881 with 3 children. The oldest Thomas was my grandfather. Came over on the ship City of Rome.
Family settled in Tennessee. Peter died 9 JUN 1954 at 98 yrs old. not bad for a coal miner. Thomas m. Lillie Grace Ritter in 1900, came to Indiana thereafter. They had 11 children. 7 girls and 4 boys. My mother Rita was one of the daughters. Am interested in finding Peter's and Hannah's parents and anything else to help.
Ray Beeker--Bloomington Indiana USA.

PS the last remaining child of Thomas and Lillie will be 90 in Oct. and all nieces and nephews will be helping Uncle Porter Ainscough celebrate.

On 4 Sep 2008, at 07:23, barbara ainscough wrote:
Hi Nancy
its been some time (Dec 2006) since you sent your information in (italics below), you might be able to help Ray and Catherine here (see email below) - it seems you share the Hannah Partington link.

"Barbara,
...I am so grateful you wrote. I have had such a tough time with my husbands ainscough family living here in the US. I had gotten back as far as a Thomas Ainscough born in Lostock, Lancashire, England between 1821-1825, we believe he was married to a Hannah Dickenson b. Great Bolch or Bolton, England
His children were John, Rosette, Mary, Helen "Ellen", Peter, Thomas, William, James Huey and Hannah. Nothing much yet on their spouses except for Peter who married Hannah "Anna" Partington. They are buried in Coalfield, Tennesee; John who married Elizabeth Bramley; Mary who married a John Roscow or Samuel Darbyshire.

Peter Ainscough b. 21 may 1856 Lostock, Lanchashire, England and Hannah Partington b. bet 1856-1858 Possibly in Westhoughton, Lancashire, England were married 10 Jun 1876 iBolton, Le Moors, Lancashire, England, they had a Thomas, John, Ellen, Margaret, Hannah "Anna", Sarah Alice, Peter, Henry, all were born in the States except for Thomas, John and Ellen.
I am hoping more Ainscough decendants start adding to more genealogy sites on the net.
Nancy"


Ray - on my blog simply type Partington into the search box - top left to find all posts with relevant info. in. There is also a reference to an Elizabeth Partington in a blog of Feb 2008 - could she be related? Hope this helps.
Let me know how you get on.
B

A place called Ascog - Scotland

Dad mailed me a few weeks ago with the following information but Ive just got round to looking it up on the internet.....Ascog, situated on the east coast of the Isle of Bute, located about a mile and a half south east of Rothesay. It has an Ascog House with origins dating back to 1678. Looks like a gorgeous place to visit, although the site I visited doesnt give any information about early history.....interesting though. I have fiund further information on another website that says nearby "Rothesay Castle, a moated, circular structure was captured by the Vikings in 1230.."

http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/bute/ascog/index.html

On 25 Jul 2008, at 20:03, Peter Ainscough wrote:
Hi B
Quite by accident whilst browsing through a brochure we picked up while we were away, I discovered a place called Ascog in Scotland. The coincidence seems too good to be true, so I looked it up on the map. It sits a mile or two below Rothesay on the Isle of Bute and is a very small village or hamlet. However, close by is a Loch Ascog which seems to indicate that the name is of some historical significance there. It would fit in with a Scandinavian move southwards from Iceland or wherever, perhaps ???
Who knows - and there's no way of proving any of it that I can think of.
Thought you'd be interested.
Love, Dad

Anne (Ayscough) Askew - radio 4 broadcast

On 17 Aug 2008, at 11:00, Mary Ainscough wrote:

Hi Barbara, Just wondering if you caught 'Forbidden Families' on radio 4 the other day. this episode was all about Anne Askew the Protestant Martyr.
Love Mary

Radio4 Broadcast - Anne Askew (Ayscough)/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/forbiddenfamilies/pip/f9s6t/

Barbara Ascough d.1811 m Charles Nicholson

Ive just received an email fro Michael Turner in Sydney, Aus. He is interested in finding out more information about Barbara Ascough and family, Bedale, Yorks. Barbara went on to marry Charles Nicholson and had 1 son Charles Nicholson. Tragically she died young. Michael is the curator of the Nicholson Museum, named after Barbara's son Charles. If anybody can help please get in touch with either Michael or myself.
Thanks.
B

On 31 Jul 2008, at 06:05, Michael Turner (m.turner@usyd.edu.au) wrote:
Hi Barbara
Can you help me??
I’m the curator of the Nicholson Museum at the University of Sydney. The Museum is named after Charles Nicholson (1808-1903). There are however several unresolved mysteries about Nicholson and his origins.
Nicholson’s mother was your namesake (nearly) Barbara Ascough. She was married to Charles Nicholson (b. Cockermouth).
Barbara died when Charles was 3 in 1811. Charles senior in 1824. Following the death of his mother, Charles was brought up by his maternal aunt, Mary Ascough, in Bedale.
Nicholson qualified as a doctor from Edinburgh University in 1833 and immediately sets sail for Australia, sponsored by his uncle William Ascough, who was a wealthy trader etc on the Hawkesbury River in NSW. In 1836, William drowned in a boating accident on the Hawkesbury. He left Charles his entire fortune.
Nicholson lived in Australia until 1862 when he returned to England. In 4 successive UK censuses he gave his place of birth variously as Whitby (x2), Sleights, and Bedale.
Can you help me with any background on the various Ascoughs in this story??
2008 is the bicentenary of the birth of Sir Charles Nicholson and we’re planning a large exhibition on him for November this year. He is one of the more famous (and certainly one of the richest) Australians of the 19th century.

With best wishes
Michael

Senior Curator
The Nicholson Museum
The University of Sydney NSW 2006 Australia - www.usyd.edu.au/museums

On 31/7/08 5:03 PM, "barbara ainscough" wrote:
Hi Michael
good to hear from you. With your permission I would like to add this to the blog and see if anybody else out there can help. It undoubtedly sounds like this Ascough family stem from the Bedale branch......lots of history there. Do you have a birth date for Barbara A?? Also do you have any info about her parents??
When I get a moment I shall look into it.
best wishes
B

On 31 Jul 2008, at 08:19, Michael Turner wrote:
Hi Barbara
Thanks for the speedy reply - sensational!
All I know further at this stage about Barbara is that she was the daughter of ‘J. Ascough. Esq., of Bedale’. Do please add to the blog.
I should add that Nicholson was always said to come from Cockermourth, and that Cockermouth are subsequently very disappointed to be about to lose a ‘famous son’. Their loss, Bedale’s gain!

On 1 Aug 2008, at 15:34, Andrew Scarisbrick wrote:
Hi B
Barbara Ascough was the youngest daughter of John Ascough Esq. of Bedale, but I am sorry, I can't track this family for certain. I cannot get a good handle on this family, as all the members involved seems to have either died before the censuses, or emigrated.
It seems apparent that Barbara comes from the Ascough family which were a minor gentry family from the Bedale area. Interesting to note the village called Aiskew by Bedale.
There are, in fact, a number of Ascoughs from the Bedale/Masham area, found in the 1851 census, who are probably all connected. However, that would be a large task to undertake.
There are a few references to the landed Ascough family I have found on the internet, including a William Ascough esq. of Kirby Malzeard (Malzart), which is just south of Masham.
It may be worth finding the Victoria County History volume for North Yorkshire, for the Bedale/masham area, and seeing if this mentions the Ascoughs for any of the local manors.
I am sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Regards,
Andy.

"Olsok" Wirral-Chester Viking Churches Heritage Walk/Pilgrimage

On 18 Jul 2008, at 00:45, Harding Stephen wrote:

Dear Colleague
Please can I bring to your attention this years "Olsok" Wirral-Chester Viking Churches Heritage Walk/Pilgrimage which this year goes from the church of St. Mary and St. Helen at Neston to St. Olave's in Chester.
It is on Saturday July 26th and starts at 9am. It will be led by myself and Dr. Dan Robinson, Emeritus Keeper of Archaeology at the Grosvenor Museum in Chester.
Details are on:
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve/Olsok08.htm

The remarkable Viking stone fragments at the church at Neston - and the work going on to build a replica of the "Viking Lady" cross will be featured on ITV1 Granada this Sunday (6pm) on the Lost Treasures - Vikings Show. St. Olave's will also be featured too. For those not in the Granada region the show can be picked up as follows:

Sunday July 20th: ITV1 Granada, 6.00pm BST. LOST TREASURES: VIKINGS. King of Sat gives the following Satellite details for the appropriate Frequency, Polarisation, Symbol Rate and FEC settings: Astra 2D 28.2°E. 10758.00V. 22000 5/6.
If you wish to come on the walk it is important you email myself, Dan Robinson or Mike Morris (contact details on the web site) well in advance so we have an idea of numbers. Please read the instructions carefully on the web site,
All best

Steve Harding

Stephen Harding (Professor of Biology)
University of Nottingham
Sutton Bonington
LE12 5RD, UK
Viking blog: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/-sczsteve

Hugh Ainscough b.1740 (Scarisbrick line)

The full trees (pdf)and the Will translation (.doc) can be downloaded from the black box area on the right.
Julia Caunce (cauncej@hotkey.net.au) has been in touch regarding a link to a Hugh Ainscough b. 1740. I think this is more likely to be one of the Ainscoughs linked to the Scarisbrick tree. Thanks to Andrew Scarisbrick once again for confirming this. The really strange part about all of this is that this Hugh Ainscough b.1740 owned a part share of the Eagle and Child pub in Ormskirk, which is once again also owned by an Ainscough today (from the Parbold line)!!!!
Talk about keeping it in the family?


On 30 May 2008, at 03:22, Caunce J wrote:
Hi Barbara,
I have found a connection with your tree through Hugh Ainscough (b circa 1760), grandson of Hugh. He married Jane and had a son Thomas (1790 - 1869) who became a bailiff and died at Scarisbrick. Thomas had 7 children, among them Jane who was the great grandmother of my husband, Neil Caunce. I would be happy to share any information I have for this family if you are interested.
Regards
Julia Caunce


On 30 May 2008, at 14:49, Barbara Ainscough wrote:
Just checked...I do have a Hugh b. c 1760 - the liquor merchant but he never married!!......hmm. Shall have to go back to the Hugh Ainscoughs that Andrew Scarisbrick researched to find out who your Hugh is.
see detail here.......
http://ainscough-familyhistory.blogspot.com/2007/01/1813-hugh-ainscough-of-ormskirk-liquor.html
Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
B

On 2 Jun 2008, at 21:52, Andrew Scarisbrick wrote:
Hi Barbara and Julia.
Yes, the Caunce connection does fit into my Ainscough family.
I have a Jane Ainscough (b. 1847, Scarisbrick) who married a James Caunce in 1868. Is this your family Julia?
Jane was the daughter of Robert Fairclough Ainscough and Alice (maiden name as yet unknown), and Robert was the son of Thomas Ainscough and Ann Fairclough. Thomas (b. 1790) was the son of Hugh Ainscough (~1740-1820) and Jane Rimmer (1752-1828).
Another interesting coincidence, Barbara. Your very Gt Gt uncle, Hugh Ainscough b.1760 of Ormskirk, was a liquor merchant
http://ainscough-familyhistory.blogspot.com/2007/01/1813-hugh-ainscough-of-ormskirk-liquor.html
My ancestor, Hugh (b. 1740) owned a part share of the Eagle and Child pub in Ormskirk. Could this mean they may have known each other? One buying drink off the other?
I hope this helps you Julia. If you are interested, I can send you family trees for this Ainscough family, including the Caunce connection.
Best Regards,
Andrew

On 3 Jun 2008, at 13:07, Andrew Scarisbrick wrote:
Hi Barbara
here are the pertinent family trees for my early Ainscoughs, and the branch which contains the Caunces. Also attached is the Will of my Hugh Ainscough (~1740-1820), whi
I am also Ccing copies to Julia, so you can see where I fit into the Aiscough's, Julia and if this is your Caunce branch.
Regards,
Andrew

On 12 Jun 2008, at 02:36, Caunce J wrote:
Hi Andrew and Barbara
Thankyou Andy and Barbara so much for your information. I see that I will have a busy time updating and checking my files.
I have attached files that show we have the right connection. I have Robert Ainscough marrying Alice Ashcroft and Thomas Ainscough marrying Ann Fairclough after Robert was born.
Ann's parents were George Fairclough (bp1761-?) m 20 May 1783, North Meols Elizabeth Blundell (bp1757 -?).
Grandparents were Thomas Fairclough and Jennet Gill m.24 Jan 1758 North Meols and George Fairclough (bp 4 Jan 1761 N Meols) m. 20 May 1783 N Meols Elizabeth Blundell (bp. 30 Oct 1757 N Meols). Elizabeth was the daughter (I think) of John Blundell and Alice. I have not done a lot on this family for a couple of years and since I have moved recently there could still be stuff to add that I have not yet unpacked.
I apologise for the delay in this. I have been in Canberra for a few days but have now returned to sunny Queensland and lots and lots of emails to answer.
Cheers
Julia

On 15 Jun 2008, at 20:56, Andrew Scarisbrick wrote:

Hi Julia
Thank you very much for the information you passed on, it was very useful, including Robert Ainscough's marriage to Alice Ashcroft.
I was very interested about John, the son of Thomas Ainscough (1790), that you had, from Thomas' Will. This has proven a theory of mine, because I have known about a John Ainscough, but couldn't until now, prove that he was the son of Thomas 1790.
In Scarisbrick in 1841, there is a John Ainscough with his wife Jane living just down the road, less than a mile, from Thomas, at Ainscough's Lodge. I know exactly where this was, if you are interested. In 1851, John and Jane are living at Bootle, with some of his children given as born at Scarisbrick. He had died by 1861, and I think his widow, Jane, was living in Burscough.
John was 40 in 1851, so he was born around 1811. Strangely, his place of birth is given as Croston. There is a baptism of a John Ainscough at North Meols, 27th December 1812, son of Thomas and Ellen, of Churchtown; and in Ormskirk, there is a marriage of a Thomas Ainscough to an Ellen Shaw, 22nd December 1811. So this is the John in question. His place of birth as Croston has always puzzled me, though. Could it be a misspelling of Crossens? Which is next to Churchtown.
What I hadn't known was if John's father was our Thomas Ainscough (1790). I haven't seen Thomas's Will, but if it says he had a deceased son John, then I think this would prove he is the father of this John.
Would it be at all possible, if you don't mind, for you to pass on a copy of his Will to me?
I am attaching copies of corrected versions of the necessary family trees again.
Thank you,
Andy